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November 3, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
December 20, 2008	Featured topic candidate	Promoted
October 31, 2009	Peer review	Reviewed
November 14, 2009	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
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December 15, 2024	Featured topic removal candidate	Demoted
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Lisa is vegan

Why does Lisa call the leather football a "non-vegan football"? Why doesn't she just call it a "leather football"? Yes, a leather football is technically a non-vegan football, but why would Lisa call it a "non-vegan football" unless she was vegan? This line confirms that she's vegan. 2601:282:C00:ABB0:C199:F161:2E17:1972 (talk) 20:54, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vegan would be the correct term for an inedible object even if you weren't one yourself. 24.232.183.230 (talk) 13:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Doh 159.2.212.79 (talk) 23:13, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lisa Simpson

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There is a lot of cruft in this article. It was never been maintained. The article needs some revision + plenty of unreliable sources need to be removed, including the refbombs. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 13:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delist I was in for a surprise seeing this article, Bart Simpson isn’t even this long. Most definitely fancruft. 1989 (talk) 03:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Boneless Pizza!: As the recent primary contributor to this article, I've just come back to give it another read, coincidentally, and, after only just stumbling upon the talk page and the comment left on my talk, I couldn't help but wonder if I should chime in here, which I am promptly doing now. I shall now explain the reason for the recent developments on this article.

This character is generally regarded as being the most well-developed on the show, and is certainly one of the most culturally influential (even if still not as outright iconic as Homer and Bart). It therefore makes perfect sense for there to be a bigger article on her, and I have nothing but kudos for all those who have put in considerable effort over the years to make the article what it is today, including myself. Quite a few parts could be trimmed slightly though, I agree in hindsight, but it is important to keep note about this character's major aspects. (Also, I'm on a dynamic network, which means that I myself in particular have been unable to manage to keep the same IP for that long a time, most recently due to a power cut last week, meaning that I didn't catch the initial message, but most previous edits of mine to this article can be found here.) I was actively taking inspiration from Bart's article and the FAR for that for ideas on how to improve this article, though I didn't quite realize, apparently, how seemingly overboard some of the additions may have gone from the site's point of view.

That out of the way, I'm thinking about asking Xeroctic and Pallettown, who seem to be the overall main frequent registered contributors to the project as far as The Simpsons articles go, for some helpful ideas on what to do next, but otherwise I myself am moving towards keep rather than delist, as aside from its length and certain various copyedits that I agree now in hindsight could be implemented throughout, the article appears to still be in good shape. It is also well-sourced throughout, which probably accounts for much of the page size. Some copy-editing in the later parts of the personality and cultural influence sections could be of help. Trimming some of the reviews about this one's cultural influence to the most important points raised by each could also be helpful. Some issues relating to the detail of certain examples notwithstanding, I don't think the prose is too bad, but as soon as I know what exactly needs to be done to try and undertake some salvation aimed to improving the prospects of keeping the badge, I shall aim get on with it, because, paraphrasing what 750h+ said over at Bart's FARC, one would probably rather something never be at least a GA rather than it being a GA and seeing it get delisted, and so if it's an iconic person that just makes it all the more depressing.

To prove my point, I'll seek to make a start by aiming to trim down a few of the excess phrasings and examples again, along with some seemingly redundant citations, beginning later on today, though the size of many of the actual references themselves will still be challenging in their own right, due to virtually all of the web references having archived versions of the links alongside the original links themselves for the sake of posterity. Obviously, episode examples that basically summarise their plot in anything but a laconic way can be refactored or trimmed entirely, for instance. In short, I have a generally good idea of what needs trimming back down, and am willing to cooperate in every possible way.

46.208.36.42 (talk) 08:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP. Unfortunately, the expansions that you've made adds you additional work per WP:UNDUE. I wouldn't definitely gonna read this entire article since it's kinda obvious that are a lot of problems that are visible. Take your time or if you can't; just drop it. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 10:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]